The Conversation

After church chat

ChyD: Sommy, how was church?
Sommy: Fine I guess. Although I didn’t really understand what the preacher taught about the holyspirit never leaving a believer. Surely the holyspirit doesn’t live in a sinful body.
ChyD: It depends on what you mean by ‘sinful body’.
Sommy: That’s my problem with all you grace preachers and modern christians. You try to twist the truth. What else is sin asides the ones we know like lying, cheating, stealing, fornication and so on. 

ChyD: Can we check the bible again? Just to see if those things you listed can take away the holyspirit from a believer.
Sommy: with all pleasure
ChyD: John 14 : 16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you forever. 

I didn’t see any condition. It says FOREVER! 
Sommy: You are forgetting the portion of the bible that says that the sin against the holyspirit shall not be forgiven. What are you people preaching? For heaven’s sake you people are encouraging sin.
ChyD: No we are not. We are preaching the gospel of Christ. Let’s see the scripture about grieving the holyspirit, shall we?
Sommy: By all means
ChyD: Ephesians 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.

For some reasons unknown to me, most people do not complete that verse. It says you are sealed with the holyspirit unto the day of redemption. It didn’t say if you grieve the holyspirit, he’ll pack and leave.

The whole packing out of believers’ lives and packing in again when they are ready will slim down the heavy presence of the holy spirit, don’t you think? That’s some physical fitness exercise! Running to and fro.
Still on Ephesians. Chapter 1: 13- 14 says “In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory”
We are told that the holyspirit is our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession. We are the purchased possession and until we are redeemed, the holyspirit remains with us. It’s like a legal contract of a father’s will after his death. If the will says “give him everything aka the holyspirit”, nothing can take away his inheritance. 
Sommy: I hear you! What about the sin against the holyspirit not being forgiven?
ChyD: The sin against the holyspirit is UNBELIEF! 
Mark  3:29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation.

And John 3: 15 tells us who ever believeth in him should not perish but have eternal life.

That would make the only reason for eternal damnation unbelief.

 Romans 8: 16 says the spirit bears witness with our spirit, that we are children of God.

What makes you a child of God? Belief in God. When a person doesn’t believe, he is sinning against the holyspirit and there is no witness.
Sommy: Wow. This is too much to take in. I’ll need to go through these scriptures again. But I never saw all these things you just opened my eyes to, despite the fact that I study my bible daily.

Thank you.
ChyD: We were all once there. I pray that light hits you more.

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